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why the deficit's been above $1 trillion now four years running, and maybe if the moderators get into it, what's happening in the middle east, and what they think they can do about it. i think that governor romney's plan's going to be to try to stick to the substance because i think the country knows we need a change. >> i'm only half joking about kicking out of the room. metaphorically, a lot of republicans want to see mitt romney do just that to the president. they want to see him verbally beat him up and make the points that you've made crystal clear and win the argument. but there's another argument that says that one of mitt romney's problems is he's not likeable enough and he may need to turn on the kind of easy ronald reagan charm which he deployed so successfully in debate. it's a fine line, isn't it, between being hard and aggressive and making a point, but also coming over as likeable. >> right. and piers, really, the way to deal with that, and i think this is true for any debate but especially one where the stakes are so high for the country, is to stick to what you want to
why the deficit's been above $1 trillion now four years running, and maybe if the moderators get into it, what's happening in the middle east, and what they think they can do about it. i think that governor romney's plan's going to be to try to stick to the substance because i think the country knows we need a change. >> i'm only half joking about kicking out of the room. metaphorically, a lot of republicans want to see mitt romney do just that to the president. they want to see him...
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there have been so many economic failure failures, the failure to create jobs or bring down the deficit. >> kevin, i want to get to some smalls we have on latino likely voters, but i want to quickly ask you, why did governor romney wait to this point to bring this forward on immigration policy? >> well, kate, we've had a lot of discussions on this issue. i think this was an opportunity where a question was asked, specifically on that question, and the governor answered it. he did talk in expansive terms about immigration, what he would do to modernize the immigration system, how it's an important part of our economy. during his recent interview that he had with univision. and i think it will continue to be a part of this debate. >> kevin, i want to show you, we put up on our screen for our viewers some new polling we have out today, showing that president obama really has an overwhelming lead among likely latino voters. 70 to 26 for governor romney. are now aggressively courting the latino vote, are you expecting to get anywhere near or beyond what senator mccain got back in 2008, which
there have been so many economic failure failures, the failure to create jobs or bring down the deficit. >> kevin, i want to get to some smalls we have on latino likely voters, but i want to quickly ask you, why did governor romney wait to this point to bring this forward on immigration policy? >> well, kate, we've had a lot of discussions on this issue. i think this was an opportunity where a question was asked, specifically on that question, and the governor answered it. he did...
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number two, to make the deficit go away and live within our means. i was not able to do it. >> sean: we have much more with governor schwarzenneger. is he supporting a candidate this election? that is coming up next. [ male announcer ] if it wasn't for a little thing called the computer, we might still be making mix tapes. find this. pause this. play this. eject this. write this. it's like the days before esurance express lane™. you had to find a bunch of documents just to get a car insurance quote. now express lane finds your driving info with just one click, saving time to be nostalgic about the days before express lane. thank you, insurance for the modern world. esurance. now backed by allstate. click or call. >> sean: we continue now with arnold schwarzenegger. he's written a new memoir. it's called "total recall: my unbelievably true life story." you talk about in your book, you go through a childhood where you grew up, where you had to walk to get water. >> milk. >> sean: milk. you didn't have a bathroom. you didn't have running water. you di
number two, to make the deficit go away and live within our means. i was not able to do it. >> sean: we have much more with governor schwarzenneger. is he supporting a candidate this election? that is coming up next. [ male announcer ] if it wasn't for a little thing called the computer, we might still be making mix tapes. find this. pause this. play this. eject this. write this. it's like the days before esurance express lane™. you had to find a bunch of documents just to get a car...
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number two, to make the deficit go away and live within our means. i was not able to do it. >> sean: we have much more with governor schwarzenneger. is he supporting a candidate this election? that is coming up next. >> sean: we continue now with arnold schwarzenegger. he's written a new memoir. it's called "total recall: my unbelievably true life story." you talk about in your book, you go through a childhood where you grew up, where you had to walk to get water. >> milk. >> sean: milk. you didn't have a bathroom. you didn't have running water. you didn't have any of the bare necessities. >> right. >> sean: but you survived as a family. you talked about a tough childhood with your father. he would come home once a week intoxicated, be tough on the whole family. but here we are in a country, do you think at this time in this country, 49 million americans needing foods stamps, 1 in 6 in poverty. >> it's important we get our world economy back, and the united states gets our economy back again. as i said earlier, just alone, if you build the infrastruc
number two, to make the deficit go away and live within our means. i was not able to do it. >> sean: we have much more with governor schwarzenneger. is he supporting a candidate this election? that is coming up next. >> sean: we continue now with arnold schwarzenegger. he's written a new memoir. it's called "total recall: my unbelievably true life story." you talk about in your book, you go through a childhood where you grew up, where you had to walk to get water. >>...
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that increased our deficit by almost $1 trillion. maybe if we can negotiate more, maybe we can have more money left for infrastructure and schools and teacher pay and police officers. that is where we need it. it is not about regulation. i was looking how to make a profit. we overcome the obstacles we find. frome so far removed reality. i don't think you know what the small business is a less it is a hedge fund. this was a difficult thing for me. i was going to ask about the insuring the treasury bonds or why you carve out the spousal exemption for why you took $5 million from sheldon adelson. this is from my son. last year when you and the president went on a budget standoff that threaten to shut down the government, he voted to continue paying members of congress. you voted against a bill which would have been short the members of the armed services continue to get paid. how could you in good conscience vote to continue your own pay but vote to stop paying our servicemen and women that you voted to send into combat in afghanistan?
that increased our deficit by almost $1 trillion. maybe if we can negotiate more, maybe we can have more money left for infrastructure and schools and teacher pay and police officers. that is where we need it. it is not about regulation. i was looking how to make a profit. we overcome the obstacles we find. frome so far removed reality. i don't think you know what the small business is a less it is a hedge fund. this was a difficult thing for me. i was going to ask about the insuring the...
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[laughter] on the deficit it was that the deficits do not matter. biology boggles some of them, that guy in missouri, too, for that matter. what happens the morning after the election from a loses? i wonder about the morning after the morning after though. we have gone way too far to the right and we need a different republican party. we need a center-right republican party which i think the country really needs. it needs to be a check on the rate -- the left and center left and that is the only way we will get a check on these issues. >> history suggests the second term of clinton and reagan were the productive terms where they had big achievements. it's hard to know whether the republican party, where they will portion the blame if that happens. the question is how they decide to spend the next four years. i think it's very hard to tell, but there is some hope in looking back at both clinton and reagan. >> reagan was also considered a far right and it took running a far right republican party at the time by whoever the thomas friedman equivalent w
[laughter] on the deficit it was that the deficits do not matter. biology boggles some of them, that guy in missouri, too, for that matter. what happens the morning after the election from a loses? i wonder about the morning after the morning after though. we have gone way too far to the right and we need a different republican party. we need a center-right republican party which i think the country really needs. it needs to be a check on the rate -- the left and center left and that is the...
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of course everybody wants a tax cut, but if it's not going to cause bigger deficits, tell us how you're going to do it, and they won't do it. they won't say we're going to get rid of charitable deductions, won't get rid of homeowner, state and local. that's where all the money is. it's not little doodads here. joan, you take this one. he won't tell us. same question comes up wednesday night, can romney dodgeball it? can he say i'm not telling you how i'm going to do the major thing i promised to do, get the economy going through a tax cut, but i'm not going to tell you how i'm going to do it. can he get away with it with even the -- >> i hope not. i think this is a moment for jim lehrer to be very tough, respectful tough, and for president obama to come back at him and to say, look, i'm happy to see -- your running mate said he didn't have enough time on sunday. that's too bad. that's terrible, in fact. i'm willing to cede, governor romney -- >> could jim lehrer get away with simply saying, i have a little liberty here, a little leeway, i will give you all the time it takes. tell us now
of course everybody wants a tax cut, but if it's not going to cause bigger deficits, tell us how you're going to do it, and they won't do it. they won't say we're going to get rid of charitable deductions, won't get rid of homeowner, state and local. that's where all the money is. it's not little doodads here. joan, you take this one. he won't tell us. same question comes up wednesday night, can romney dodgeball it? can he say i'm not telling you how i'm going to do the major thing i promised...
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and the deficit will continue to grow, and i suggest we'll have continue to have unsustainable debt and spending. >> cenk: let's go to the point of disagreement. i want to balance the budget, but i want to do it fairly, far more fairly than what president obama is suggesting, but i would increase taxes. i would agree with you in taking away the nonsense wars and, etc. how are you going to balance the budget by lowering taxes? come on, the math doesn't add up. >> cenk, the fair tax is revenue neutral. i'm not talking about raising taxes or lowering taxes but cutting spending. that's something that needs to start with medicaid, medicare and military spending. you got obama and romney debating who is going to spend more money on medicare when we need to have a raging debate and discussion in this country on how we slash medicare spending or we find ourselves with no healthcare for those over 65. that's the alternative. the monetary collapse--excuse me quickly. a monetary collapse when the dollars we have in our pocket don't buy a thing because of the inflation that is going to go along wit
and the deficit will continue to grow, and i suggest we'll have continue to have unsustainable debt and spending. >> cenk: let's go to the point of disagreement. i want to balance the budget, but i want to do it fairly, far more fairly than what president obama is suggesting, but i would increase taxes. i would agree with you in taking away the nonsense wars and, etc. how are you going to balance the budget by lowering taxes? come on, the math doesn't add up. >> cenk, the fair tax...
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i'm sure you didn't miss it. 15-point deficit for mitt romney. i'm guessing you'll argue with some parts. >> i'm not going to argue with it at all. do you really believe it's right? let me test your political wisdom. do you think it's possible for that to be right? you know it's a piece of garb e garbage? >> this is a good pollster, but you can argue that it's not 15%. do you believe mitt romney is behind in new hampshire? >> no, i believe it's head to head in new hampshire. and i've seen enough other polls to tell you that is a piece of garbage. this race in new hampshire will be won by mitt romney by two to three points. i'm willing to say that publically and stick by it and i know that it that poll of 15 points is absolutely invalid. >> every sort of professional poll i have seen of campaigns, though, all seem to have barack obama ahead and the big issue in new hampshire has been the gender gap with moderate women who may be the republicans fiscally but uncomfortable on social issues. you have had to navigate that before. that's always an issu
i'm sure you didn't miss it. 15-point deficit for mitt romney. i'm guessing you'll argue with some parts. >> i'm not going to argue with it at all. do you really believe it's right? let me test your political wisdom. do you think it's possible for that to be right? you know it's a piece of garb e garbage? >> this is a good pollster, but you can argue that it's not 15%. do you believe mitt romney is behind in new hampshire? >> no, i believe it's head to head in new hampshire....
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in terms of achieving the same amount of deficit reduction over the 10-year window. just use the budge -- budget committees and budge budget process to enforce this. to come up with reforms that achieve certain spending or revenue targets. the tpc's analysis is the kind of analysis we're going to need to be able to recycle as we go. it is the kind of analysis we need because it tells us something about what each can looks like in its present form. it tells us do we really want to use this can like this or do we need to melt it down and reshape it and use it for different parts of the whole system? and we're going to need more of these analyses. we'll need more analyses not just the distributional effects but the tradeoffs. for example if we want to keep tax cuts low, we need to broaden the base. what are some different tradeoffs if i want to lower the rates by 10%, how much am i going to have to broad the base. what are the most progressive elements of that? tax policy center will be busy in the next year is what i predict and, i think that what wee need to do is kee
in terms of achieving the same amount of deficit reduction over the 10-year window. just use the budge -- budget committees and budge budget process to enforce this. to come up with reforms that achieve certain spending or revenue targets. the tpc's analysis is the kind of analysis we're going to need to be able to recycle as we go. it is the kind of analysis we need because it tells us something about what each can looks like in its present form. it tells us do we really want to use this can...
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let's assume they're true, let's say you can't do everything he wants to do without increasing the deficit and without increasing taxes on the middle class. what i think we will see is because i don't think there's a good answer to this conundrum he's in mathematically, he will kind of confuse the issue. he will talk in specifics that don't necessarily make sense. so as a political strategy, you want to sound specific and say, here, i'm talking about some detailed numbers, and people say that sounds like a pretty detailed plan, he's thought it through. martin, based on what i heard there, there's not an answer to the mathematical possibility of his plan working. the last thing i think he will do is just attack the study, attack the president's premise. >> of course. >> there's no fact checker on stage. you say that study has all kinds of problems. i think it's a pretty good study but i think that's how he will get out of it. >> dana, isn't there is problem that mr. romney's economic adviser has already suggested that if he cannot make the 20% tax cut payable by using deductions, well, then
let's assume they're true, let's say you can't do everything he wants to do without increasing the deficit and without increasing taxes on the middle class. what i think we will see is because i don't think there's a good answer to this conundrum he's in mathematically, he will kind of confuse the issue. he will talk in specifics that don't necessarily make sense. so as a political strategy, you want to sound specific and say, here, i'm talking about some detailed numbers, and people say that...